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"For mark you, Phaedrus..."

Submitted by B. on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 23:52
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Phaedrus in lovePhaedrus in love

In Thomas Mann’s Death In Venice, the main character Gustave von Aschenbach is smitten with an adolescent boy Tadzio. More than once in the novel, after seeing Tadzio, Aschenbach rants to someone named Phaedrus. I was unfamiliar with that name, so I looked into who exactly he is and how he might lend some insight into Aschenbach, Tadzio, and their complicated relationship.

Phaedrus was a character in several of Socrates’ dialogues, written by Plato. Most notably, Phaedrus had a conversation with Socrates regarding the subject of love. They both give their own interpretations of what is love and what the course of action should be once under the spell of love. Socrates refers to the madness of love as a gift from the gods that must be celebrated. The example he uses to be the representation of true beauty is a boy that is being pursued by a, clearly older, lover. It’s no accident that Aschenbach chooses to use this analogy, not only is the pursuit of an adolescent accepted in this discussion, but on top of that the madness that comes with love is celebrated and accepted. Aschenbach engages in completely mad behavior due to his obsession with Tadzio, “he paused by his beloved’s chamber door in the second storey… remained there long, in utter drunkenness, powerless to tear himself away, blind to the danger of being caught in so mad an attitude,” (Death in Venice, Thomas Mann). Aschenbach has been driven crazy by Tadzio, but instead of castigating himself, he harkens back to a conversation written by one of the greatest, classical philosophers that approves and encourages his illogical behavior. Socrates claims that some of the best things in life flow from madness. And madness is what Aschenbach embodies. In his monologue/dream, he states, “since knowledge might destroy us, we will have none of it… our concern shall be with beauty only,” (Death in Venice, Thomas Mann). And with these words Aschenbach practices exactly what he preaches. He fully embraces his madness, throws caution to the wind and dives into his weird, most likely pedophilic relationship.

So Phaedrus is the perfect allusion for Mann to use in this story, it gives Aschenbach a credible source that approves of his indulgence in this behavior. It also fits with the way Tadzio’s body is always described, he was as “beautiful as a tender young god”, (Death in Venice, Thomas Mann). Not only does the content of the story of Phaedrus apply to the novel, but also the allusions to Greek mythology and culture that are woven throughout the novel further draw attention to the implied acceptance of Aschenbach’s madness. Aschenbach is truly crazy in love.

 

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I looked at the novel as

Submitted by AgentCooper on Sun, 11/08/2009 - 17:00.

I looked at the novel as Aschenbach not so much wanting freedom and chaos as getting freedom and chaos. In describing Aschenbach's literary career Mann's tone is a bit ironic, hinting that Aschenbach's orderly discipline and style isn't the best, despite what critics say, and his subtle arrogance, his "dignity" could use a makeover. If you look at the first chapter you discover that Aschenbach's desire to travel is immediately and inexplicably preceded by the appearance of the red-haired stranger. I thought Mann was setting up Aschenbach in order to show us the Phaedrus dialogue, Mann endorsing Plato's view of an aesthetic middleground between chaos and order.

In Response to the Above Comment

Submitted by lemon-basil on Tue, 11/03/2009 - 11:48.

How exactly are you defining "madness?" Certainly I think the best things in life are spontaneous, free-flowing, inspired, but I don't think Aschenbach epitomizes any of these things. Aschenbach's "madness" seems to me a deep-seated longing for spontenaiety, for freedom, for joy. His obsession with Tadziu is a metaphor for this desire. Aschenbach wants freedom from his structured, serious life.

Whaddya think Mann's tryin' to say?

Submitted by Samps on Tue, 11/03/2009 - 00:10.

"Socrates claims that some of the best things in life flow from madness."

I tend to agree with Socrates. Chaos breeds harmony. Do you agree with Socrates and I? I'd like to know.

Do you think Mann would agree with Socrates and I and perhaps you as well? Even though he had Aschenbach die at the end? I ask in utter earnest.

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